Curse

TyLLy_4 · Nov 16, 2005, 02:23 PM // 14:23

ok my problem gos as follows .. i play a Me/E .. and this update has RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed me up sooo hard ... anyhway ... anyone has any "decent substitute" for a fire nuking build that its mana efective ..... if not .. ill setle for anything that does dramage and does not waste that much mana ....

HELP PLEASE

Adambomb · Nov 16, 2005, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Why don't you start using mesmer skills.... after all you are a mesmer primary...

-Adam

JL_99 · Nov 16, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

Before you go and change your whole build, try changing your tactics a bit instead. My fire nuker works just as well now as it did before, I just have to put a little thought into how I place my AoE spells. You just have to look at what's happening a bit more instead of blindly nuking the spot where your tank is standing.

That said...the other poster's idea is a good one too, now maybe people will run some more balanced PvE groups instead of always wanting a 2 monks 2 tanks and 4 nukers.

striderkaaru · Nov 16, 2005, 03:54 PM // 15:54

my suggestion would be the same as others: actually take a look at the skills not in fire magic.

Sir Edri · Nov 16, 2005, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Concentrate on your mesmer skills, then use fire [AoE] as your defensive skills. Cast and AoE if you are being attacked heavily or the monk in your party. Leave the nuking to the Elementalist.

Yukito Kunisaki · Nov 16, 2005, 04:39 PM // 16:39

If you're going to insist on fire nuking, then you should NOT use DoT nukes. Such as Fire Storm.

Last I noticed with my N/E, enemies WON'T walk away when clobbered with:

Immolate
Fireball
Phoenix
Inferno

half your skill bar for hard hitting spells. One of which ignores armor... You're part mesmer so you could just steal the energy you need.

Mordakai · Nov 16, 2005, 04:47 PM // 16:47

What level are you? Water and Air elemental spells complement the Mesmers "mess 'em up" philosophy.

But, if you simply must Nuke things, I've found that for whatever reason Lava Font doesn't seem to cause enemies to flee upon casting.

But people have told me I'm wrong... I say try it and see for yourself.

I also like Lava Font because it goes well with other close range spells like Inferno and Pheonix. But it does raise a whole other problem - your "support" character is now in the middle of enemies! So make sure you've got Warriors around you to take the heat off, and the Monk knows what you're doing!

BTW, I have a Me/E and my thought was to create a Spellcaster who could get Fire Storm out there faster (pre-update, of course). Now I'm in the higher missions, and I find a straight Mesmer is more useful than a Nuker anyway for interrupts, IMO.

DeanBB · Nov 16, 2005, 06:00 PM // 18:00

They run from me when I use Lava Font.

capitalist · Nov 16, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

They run from me when I use Lava Font.

Same here

~$~

TyLLy_4 · Nov 17, 2005, 03:33 PM // 15:33

ok ... i cant go fire that its not nuke ....

i used to do fire storm echoe ire storm and metoer shower with glyph of lesser energy (as my elite was echoe) and then inspiration magic to get mana back and heal myself .... MY ONLY SOURCE OF DRAMAGE WRE THOSE 2 SPELLS .... but now im all RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up ..... i tried to do ligthing ... my as my mana curentlly its 48 it dosent work quite well .. i run out of mana pretty fast ....

so i dedided i tried illusion inspiration and fast casting .....
heres my build

Fast casting 10 (with runes)
Ilusion 12
inspiration 10

Skills
Ether feast
Spirit of failure (does that relly works? i dont see a clear diference)
clumsiness
Phamtom pain
Conjure Phantasm
Ilusionary weponry
Favorite flavor of mantra

Ress siggy

any cluesor ideas to improve this build ......

it actually works pretty nice ... i "tanked" yesterday Titan source with "physical resistance" as my mantra and using ilusionary weponry ..... any improvments to make to this build .....

also i would really apreciate any clues on domination magic

Thansk for all the feedback

rii · Nov 17, 2005, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Just keep the fire guy and start spamming rodgorts, fireball, incendiary bonds, phoenix, immolate, etc... there isnt a problem in all honesty. Get two for mass fun -.-

Transluecent51 · Nov 17, 2005, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Lol use meteor shower...they never run from that with me. Yet firestorm does suck now...so as said before spam the spells that are instant aoe damage. If you have people to body block mobs in then firestorm is still nice because then they dont even attack because their strung up trying to run. Then you can slap on pheonix with renewal glyph... =) damage output there. Update couldnt kill fire nukers but it seems its making the ones who have brains think...ending up with better builds to put out more damage without loss.

TyLLy_4 · Nov 18, 2005, 02:52 PM // 14:52

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Originally Posted by Transluecent51

Lol use meteor shower...they never run from that with me. Yet firestorm does suck now...so as said before spam the spells that are instant aoe damage. If you have people to body block mobs in then firestorm is still nice because then they dont even attack because their strung up trying to run. Then you can slap on pheonix with renewal glyph... =) damage output there. Update couldnt kill fire nukers but it seems its making the ones who have brains think...ending up with better builds to put out more damage without loss.

y friend ... read the first post .. cant do that im amesmer .. i have 42 mana ....... i tried to do metoer ... but they run from it ..i get like 2 ipacts and then they leave area .... but iv found that i can TANK .. yes TANK ...

Magnetic aura then Ward agaist foes and when magnetic aura goes away .. ward vs melee (sometimes i use myst formwith 12 water and it protects a lot) ... then u nuke ass and they wont run ... but if they do the ward vs melee will stop em and theyll be knockeddown fomr the meteors ....

(its not as eficient as the ilusion build .. but it works) also u need inspiration so get mana back

Volarian · Nov 18, 2005, 03:12 PM // 15:12

what they said ;-)

Use your direct dmg spells - Fireball, Immolate, Rodgarts Invoke, Phoenix, Mind Burn, save a DoT AOE for defense incase mobs break past tanks. You could also as suggested use some of the Mesmer in you and bring along a couple of instant aoe - Inferno + Flame Burst <--wait til mobs are on tanks...run up and set them off for a quick 200+pts of dmg....then back out. (mx dmg dependent on their resistance level of course)

Manfred · Nov 18, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55

yeah, they didn't nerf all AOE, they only nerfed damage over time nukes. instant-effects such as phonix and fireball are non-nerfed.

TyLLy_4 · Nov 21, 2005, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfred

yeah, they didn't nerf all AOE, they only nerfed damage over time nukes. instant-effects such as phonix and fireball are non-nerfed.

xcuse my vocabulary .. but ... are u all deaf????? I HAVE 42 MANA ... it says on the first post LOL ..... a phoneix will leave me with lil more than half my mana left so .... please .. stop saying fire nukes that ar enot over time ... THAT ITS NOT A SOLUTION .... ufff ... sorry about that ....

anyway ... the ilsuion/fire build its working pretty nice .. almsot beater the whole "titan source" quest by myself ... only i got raped by sparks in the end .. anyway ... thanks for all the positive feedback

Slade xTekno · Nov 21, 2005, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by TyLLy_4

xcuse my vocabulary .. but ... are u all deaf????? I HAVE 42 MANA ... it says on the first post LOL ..... a phoneix will leave me with lil more than half my mana left so .... please .. stop saying fire nukes that ar enot over time ... THAT ITS NOT A SOLUTION .... ufff ... sorry about that ....

If you were smart enough to consider the Fire Attunement, Elemental Attunement, Channeling, Glyphs of Energy and Lesser Energy, and the grip of Inspiriation Magic skills available, we would make smarter responses.

Oh, while you're on that, try fixing your attitude and grammar. Both are atrocious.

Yukito Kunisaki · Nov 21, 2005, 04:27 PM // 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slade xTekno

If you were smart enough to consider the Fire Attunement, Elemental Attunement, Channeling, Glyphs of Energy and Lesser Energy, and the grip of Inspiriation Magic skills available, we would make smarter responses.

Oh, while you're on that, try fixing your attitude and grammar. Both are atrocious.

/nod

What he said...

FrogDevourer · Nov 21, 2005, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by TyLLy_4

xcuse my vocabulary .. but ... are u all deaf????? I HAVE 42 MANA ... it says on the first post LOL ..... a phoneix will leave me with lil more than half my mana left so .... please .. stop saying fire nukes that ar enot over time ... THAT ITS NOT A SOLUTION .... ufff ... sorry about that ....

anyway ... the ilsuion/fire build its working pretty nice .. almsot beater the whole "titan source" quest by myself ... only i got raped by sparks in the end .. anyway ... thanks for all the positive feedback

Thread closed as redundant, pointless, and lazy. I won't even mention TyLLy's unwillingness to run a spellchecker and to use proper language (no, 'rape' is not mild gaming term).